Friday 15 Podcast

Is AI More about Making Money or Saving Money?

Brian Beck, Andy Hoar, and guest Trevor Pope on where B2B companies are seeing real AI returns, why revenue gains are harder to attribute than cost savings, and how one distributor added $250,000 in 90 days by optimizing shipping presentation.

Friday 15 Podcast · Guest: Trevor Pope, Senior Director of Solution Architecture at Optimizely

Key takeaways

  • According to research cited in the episode, 49% of companies using AI report cost savings, with supply chain and back-office automation showing the highest reductions, and Wharton research suggests AI delivers 25% labor cost savings on specific tasks but only 5% enterprise-wide due to scaling challenges.
  • Boston Consulting Group reportedly found that AI-ready companies are achieving five times the revenue increases compared to laggards, and that companies successfully scaling AI across revenue functions see revenue increases of up to 10%.
  • Trevor Pope shared an example of a mid-size distributor that increased sales by $250,000 in 90 days by using experimentation to optimize how shipping costs and delivery timing were presented to customers.
  • When polled, 41% of the Master B2B community said making money was their highest priority for AI, followed by saving money (30%) and improving customer experience (27%), but Andy observed that making money is often why companies buy AI while saving money is why they renew.
  • The hosts noted that B2B is becoming a core growth driver for companies like Lowe's, whose projected 7% to 9% sales increase comes largely from B2B acquisitions while comparable consumer sales remain flat.

B2B is driving growth for Lowe’s while consumer remodeling stalls

The hosts opened with breaking news about Lowe’s earnings. The company projected sales growth of 7% to 9% for fiscal year 2025, but that growth is largely driven by B2B acquisitions, specifically Foundation Building Materials and Artisan Design Group. Comparable sales were forecast to be flat to up only 2%, with homeowners reportedly reluctant to remodel.

Andy noted that this pattern is becoming familiar. Consumer sales are flat while B2B drives growth. At the same time, profits are down due to tariff impacts, and companies are using AI as both a real productivity tool and an excuse for white-collar layoffs.

There’s a revolution taking place on the back end. That’s what this research shows about the supply chain.

Andy Hoar, Master B2B

The cost savings side: where AI delivers measurable results

Brian presented research on AI cost savings. According to sources cited in the episode, 49% of companies using AI report savings. Sector leaders see the highest cost reductions in supply chain (46%), particularly in back-office and compliance automation. Wharton research reportedly found that generative AI delivers 25% labor cost savings on specific tasks, though the enterprise-wide impact is often closer to 5% due to scaling challenges.

Andy attributed the gap between task-level and enterprise-wide impact to companies not changing how they work. They plug AI into existing processes rather than rethinking processes around what AI does well. This mirrors the early days of eCommerce, when companies treated digital as a separate initiative rather than a reason to transform operations.

The revenue side: promising but harder to prove

Brian cited additional research on AI revenue generation. McKinsey reportedly estimated that generative AI and advanced analytics could unlock up to $4.4 trillion in economic value. Boston Consulting Group reportedly found that AI-ready companies are achieving five times the revenue increases compared to laggards, and that 82% of top-performing companies target growth and innovation with AI compared to 50% of average companies.

Andy noted that revenue gains are harder to prove than cost savings. Cost savings can be demonstrated with A/B tests and direct comparison. Revenue gains invite attribution debates, with sales, customer service, and digital teams all claiming credit for the same lift. This is why companies often buy AI to make money but renew because of the cost savings.

Guest Trevor Pope on AI in experimentation

Trevor Pope, Senior Director of Solution Architecture at Optimizely, joined to discuss how AI is changing experimentation for manufacturers and distributors. He explained that AI is used at multiple stages: generating experiment ideas, suggesting variations to test, analyzing results, and even writing the code needed to implement page changes.

One key shift is that non-developers can now make template and page modifications using AI-generated code. This eliminates the bottleneck of waiting for developer resources or hiring external consultants. Customers report 25% time savings, and Trevor noted that one person can now run entire experimentation programs that previously required larger teams.

AI also helps with SEO and GEO optimization. Teams can analyze their sites for metadata issues, open graph tags, and other factors without requiring external experts or waiting for periodic audits. The analysis happens continuously rather than at six-month or annual intervals.

A distributor’s $250,000 win from shipping optimization

Trevor shared a case study of a mid-size distributor that increased sales by $250,000 in 90 days through AI-powered experimentation. The key insight came from understanding what their customers cared about.

The distributor discovered that their customers were not evaluated on product cost but on shipping cost. Internal reporting at customer organizations analyzed shipping expenses, not product prices. By making shipping costs and delivery timing more prominent on product pages, the distributor increased conversions. Customers were willing to pay higher product prices if shipping was competitive and delivery dates were clear.

They figured out very quickly that shipping was a major differentiator that the reporting side at their customer analyzed.

Trevor Pope, Optimizely

Community poll: making money leads, but saving money sustains

The hosts shared results from a community poll asking about the highest priority for AI. Making money led with 41%, followed by saving money at 30% and improving customer experience at 27%.

Trevor noted that making money is typically the reason companies buy AI tools. Andy added a refinement: making money is why companies start the process, but saving money is often why they renew. The revenue gains are real but difficult to attribute, while cost savings are straightforward to measure. Teams that can demonstrate clear efficiency gains are more likely to maintain budget and support.

Setting up measurement frameworks before starting

Andy closed with a reminder about measurement. Whatever gets measured gets managed, as Peter Drucker famously said. Companies often start AI projects without considering how they will evaluate success. They open the doors and worry about outcomes later.

The better approach is to establish a measurement framework in advance. Define what success looks like, set baselines, and decide which metrics matter before launching. The hosts noted that this will be a focus of the upcoming Master B2B Summit, where practitioners will share their approaches to measuring AI impact.

Frequently asked questions

Is AI better for making money or saving money in B2B?

According to guest Trevor Pope, companies typically buy AI tools to make money but often find the cost savings easier to measure and attribute. Revenue gains are difficult to prove because multiple teams claim credit (sales, customer service, digital), while cost savings can be demonstrated through direct comparison. In the Master B2B community poll, 41% prioritized making money, 30% prioritized saving money, and 27% prioritized customer experience.

Where are B2B companies seeing AI cost savings?

According to research cited in the episode, the highest cost reductions are in supply chain (46% of sector leaders), back-office operations, and compliance automation. Wharton research reportedly found 25% labor cost savings on specific tasks, but enterprise-wide impact is often closer to 5% due to scaling challenges. Trevor Pope noted that AI is reducing human effort in experiment setup, analysis, SEO/GEO optimization, and even code writing for non-developers.

Why is enterprise-wide AI impact lower than task-level impact?

Andy Hoar attributed the gap to companies not changing how they work. They plug AI into existing processes rather than rethinking the process itself. This mirrors the historical pattern with eCommerce, where companies initially saw digital as a separate channel rather than a reason to transform operations. The hosts compared it to the steam engine to electric motor transition, which took 30 years to deliver productivity gains because factories continued operating the same way.

How did a distributor increase sales by $250,000 in 90 days?

Trevor Pope described a mid-size distributor that used AI-powered experimentation to discover that their customers cared more about shipping costs and delivery timing than product price. The customers' internal reporting analyzed shipping costs, not product costs. By making shipping information more prominent and clarifying delivery dates, the distributor increased conversions. The insight came from testing variations and analyzing which factors drove purchasing decisions.

What AI capabilities help B2B marketers work faster?

Trevor Pope identified several areas: AI-generated experiment ideas and variation suggestions, automated analysis of test results, SEO and GEO optimization without requiring external experts, and code generation that allows non-developers to make template and page modifications. He noted that customers report 25% time savings and that one person can now run entire experimentation programs that previously required larger teams.

Why is B2B growing while consumer sales are flat?

The hosts discussed Lowe's earnings, which showed projected sales growth of 7% to 9%, largely driven by B2B acquisitions (Foundation Building Materials and Artisan Design Group), while comparable consumer sales were flat to up only 2%. Brian noted that B2C companies are discovering B2B because it offers more opportunity for differentiation through digital tools and is inherently more profitable, while B2B has historically been behind in digital adoption.

Sources & methodology

  1. Wharton research on AI labor cost savings, cited in the episode
  2. McKinsey, on generative AI economic value potential, cited in the episode
  3. Boston Consulting Group, on AI-ready companies and revenue increases, cited in the episode
  4. Lowe's earnings announcement, February 2026
  5. Friday 15 Podcast, Master B2B
Andy Hoar Andy Hoar
Co-Founder, Master B2B

Andy is a Co-Founder of Master B2B, founder of Paradigm B2B and author of the book Bot2Bot: The New Future of B2B Commerce. Andy is one of the leading global authorities on B2B commerce strategy.

Brian Beck Brian Beck
Co-Founder, Master B2B

Brian is a co-founder of Master B2B, Managing Partner of Amazon agency Enceiba, and author of the book "Billion Dollar B2B Ecommerce." Brian has also been C-level digital commerce executive with two decades of experience.

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