Friday 15 Podcast

The One Reason Your Company Should NOT Sell Online

Brian Beck and Andy Hoar talk with Schneider Electric's Anthony Lockach about why one of the world's largest manufacturers chose not to sell direct and instead built a partner enablement strategy that includes marketplace tools and micro sites.

Friday 15 Podcast · Guest: Anthony Lockach, Global Director of Distribution E-commerce at Schneider Electric

Key takeaways

  • Schneider Electric, a 38 billion dollar manufacturer, routes more than 50% of its revenue through distribution partners and has made a strategic decision not to sell direct via e-commerce.
  • After experimenting with web shops in several countries, Schneider concluded that direct selling was not their expertise and pivoted to a marketplace enablement model where partners fulfill all transactions.
  • To remove integration friction, Schneider built a micro site tool that can launch a custom-branded partner site with full product selection tools in 30 seconds, demonstrated live at their innovation summit.
  • Answer engine optimization is already affecting how B2B buyers find products, and Schneider is running pilots to measure whether they remain an authoritative source in generative search results.
  • When Schneider wins a search on brand terms, they do not compete for the buy box but instead use Commerce Connect tools to redirect transactional customers to their distribution partners.

Amazon’s Rufus is pulling in 10 billion in incremental sales

Brian opened with news from Amazon: CEO Andy Jassy reported that 250 million shoppers have used Rufus, Amazon’s AI shopping assistant, and customers who engage with Rufus are 60% more likely to complete a purchase. The tool is on pace to add 10 billion dollars in incremental sales. Andy noted that Amazon has been doing recommendation engines for years, and this is another example of them raising the bar for what a technology company can do.

Brian connected the point to B2B, where contextual search and application knowledge have traditionally been the domain of salespeople. As digital tools handle more of this work, the role of the human salesperson will continue to evolve.

B2B e-commerce is still lagging

The main topic was whether manufacturers should sell directly via e-commerce. Brian shared data showing that B2B online sales reached 28.1 trillion dollars, 10% of all B2B sales are now transacted digitally, and B2B e-commerce is twice as large as B2C. Yet 35% of B2B firms still do not have an e-commerce enabled website, according to McKinsey. Many of those firms are manufacturers who cite channel conflict as the reason.

Schneider Electric’s partner-first strategy

The guest was Anthony Lockach, Global Director of Distribution E-commerce at Schneider Electric, a 38 billion dollar global manufacturer of energy management and automation products. Anthony explained that more than 50% of Schneider’s revenue flows through distribution partners, and after experimenting with direct web shops, the company concluded that direct selling was not their expertise.

We quickly established it wasn’t our skill or expertise to be doing that. So we pivoted away from a web shop approach and what we’ve now gone to is a marketplace enablement approach.

Anthony Lockach, Schneider Electric

Schneider now operates its own marketplaces in some countries, but all transactions are fulfilled by distribution partners. The company also helps partners launch and execute their own web shops.

Micro sites in 30 seconds

Brian described a demo he witnessed at Schneider’s innovation summit where Anthony and his team launched a custom-branded partner micro site in about 30 seconds. The micro site includes Schneider’s product selection tools, which are typically difficult to integrate into partner sites.

The friction that we were removing is not even about friction with their customers. It’s about friction between them and us in terms of enabling them.

Anthony Lockach, Schneider Electric

Answer engine optimization is here

The conversation turned to generative engine optimization and how it is affecting B2B search. Anthony said the shift has arrived faster than expected. Schneider is running pilots to measure whether they remain an authoritative source in AI search results, working with channel partners to understand the impact.

Andy asked how Schneider handles the front-end conflict when someone searches for a Schneider product. Anthony explained that Schneider does not compete for the buy box. If they win on brand terms, they use Commerce Connect tools to hand off transactional customers to distribution partners. If the customer is still researching, they may stay on the Schneider site to learn about solutions before being redirected.

What this means for manufacturers

The practical takeaway is that selling direct is not the only option. Schneider’s partner enablement model allows them to support digital commerce without disintermediating their distribution network. For manufacturers considering their e-commerce strategy, the question is whether the value is in owning the transaction or in enabling partners to succeed.

Frequently asked questions

Why did Schneider Electric decide not to sell directly via e-commerce?

After experimenting with web shops in a few countries, Schneider concluded that direct selling was not their core competency. They pivoted to a marketplace enablement model where Schneider provides the tools and content, but distribution partners handle all transactions. More than 50% of Schneider's 38 billion dollars in revenue flows through distribution partners.

What is Schneider Electric's partner enablement strategy?

Schneider builds tools that help distribution partners succeed in e-commerce. These include content enablement, landing pages, product selection tools, and micro sites. In some countries, Schneider runs its own marketplaces that are fully backed and fulfilled by distribution partners. The goal is to help partners digitize quickly even if they lack internal resources.

How does the micro site tool work?

At their innovation summit, Schneider demonstrated a tool that launches a custom-branded micro site for a distribution partner in about 30 seconds. The micro site includes all of Schneider's product selection tools, which are typically difficult to integrate into partner sites. This removes friction from the enablement process and allows partners to go live quickly.

How is Schneider Electric responding to generative engine optimization?

Schneider is running pilots to measure whether they remain an authoritative source in generative search results. They are working with channel partners to understand how to maintain relevance when traditional search metrics like clicks no longer apply. The team views this as a major shift that has arrived faster than expected.

How does Schneider handle brand search traffic if they do not sell direct?

When customers land on Schneider's site with transactional intent, Schneider uses Commerce Connect and other tools to redirect them to distribution partners. Schneider does not compete for the buy box. If the customer is in research mode, they may stay on the Schneider site to learn about solutions and applications before being handed off to a partner for purchase.

What does Amazon's Rufus success mean for B2B?

Brian cited Amazon's announcement that 250 million shoppers have used Rufus and that users are 60% more likely to complete a purchase. He noted that contextual search and AI-assisted shopping have direct implications for B2B, where salespeople have traditionally handled application knowledge and product selection questions. Digitally enabled sales processes will become more common.

Sources & methodology

  1. Amazon Rufus statistics, October 2025
  2. McKinsey, on B2B e-commerce adoption
  3. Friday 15 Podcast, Master B2B
Andy Hoar Andy Hoar
Co-Founder, Master B2B

Andy is a Co-Founder of Master B2B, founder of Paradigm B2B and author of the book Bot2Bot: The New Future of B2B Commerce. Andy is one of the leading global authorities on B2B commerce strategy.

Brian Beck Brian Beck
Co-Founder, Master B2B

Brian is a co-founder of Master B2B, Managing Partner of Amazon agency Enceiba, and author of the book "Billion Dollar B2B Ecommerce." Brian has also been C-level digital commerce executive with two decades of experience.

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